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democratic structure of the national assembly

the early meetings before the king: the court



composed of two parts, the General Workers' Delegates:


and the trades' councils:


Not sure the latter should be there. might just end up being an old boys club. limited to learning institutions? can only offer a consultum?





top level government should be limited to king and his duties as minister of justice. the above mentioned "aulic" council. something like Hall Council. Come up with a better name.

below him, say, after some harsh fighting from socialist partisans during the civil war, a form of libertarian municipalism (coupled to the role of the historic nobility as justices) arises which confederates all these counties into one kingdom. the leaders of the crown vassals answer directly to the king


where the States or whatever we'll call it is a legislative body (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Jersey) the king also reserves the right to submit laws directly to his subjects as free men:


when assembled thus he can promulgate law without hindrance. in practice this will probably be uncommon, not rare




instead of a federalist system, the basis of power is truly split so that lawmaking and peacekeeping are the province of the citizens, justice is protected by the government, and has limited roles otherwise. military are likewise subject to crown vassals whose positions are legally dependent on popular votes.


wardens of the king

weirdings / tleilax (tlay-loch)


royal inheritance

map here for use in inheritance article for country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primogeniture

still not sure it shouldnt be an elected monarch, at least in modern times. but then maybe the royal house found an heir. and perhaps in future it is intended to be replaced by an elector system a la HRE


kings personal fiefs:


royal council...



(similar to Federal Council)

"Hall of Western States" (Cedesia -n unit)

aristocracy / nobles

it should be well noted that in faeland nobility and titles are NOT tied up with land and ownership but with people and leadership. for example one is not lord of faeland but lord of faels. that being said, convention renders several faelish titles thus in english.

source for names??:




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aji_(Ryukyu) <-----crown vassals, rulers of petty states



-- the nobles are represented how, in league?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Keys - it is my thinking that they are a non-legislative body whose rights include bylaws and determining the intercourse between the throne and the nobles in total. you might say this is the house of lords, a body with individual princes and representatives of corporate entities like republican crown vassals.





VEZUL HERRIEN - the binary monarchs

Url - duke (typically highest level, lord of a crown vassal, although CVs may have other officers)

Bioy/Vioy/Viot - lord (original etymology captain, as of a ship), while occasionally terrestrial often associated with coastal provinces to some degree or another. See Talk:Crown_Vassal#as_PEERS_styles.2Ftitles

dein - barons/retainers/lairds (etymology captain, as in head, as in head of a body of troops.) these were often warriors in high service to a lord who was more or less sovereign in his domain.

by - sworn warriors of a noble. often mounted but not necessarily so. and in most cases these were used for shock, patrol , swift movement, and raids. where in pitched battle they would often dismount. etymologically they were "boys". this was used affectionately and not diminutively. the old/middle celathi/faelish word was baxhen (bah-keen). With the arrival of british/irish english the word was calqued to boys (pronounced buys) and eventually standardized to "by" (plural "bys")

Other titles, and equivalent ranks:

Altlep't - ceniteq Url, meaning peak or summit. as often people of the region would identify with a particular mountain beneath which they lived. the term became conflated with local leaders as well.

vunx/vuncas - an archaic term from the almuir highlands. a baron or leader of men. the term literally translates as "fox" but is used otherwise adjectivally as "cunning"

Xinxtxk (ching-g-check) -

Vodsch -


see also: Talk:Crown_Vassal#as_PEERS_styles.2Ftitles



(advocati) mayors? advocates for towns? speakers?

Tain - village chief

(daimyo = "great name")

how manors work




bot more properly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_Constitution

particular interest should be paid to drafting sections wording. something similar could happen right before the final british defeat of faelish forces, as in a rapid attempt to modernize a very antique and not so much cumbersome but slow-moving and incapable syste,. once the british are evicted, the new constitution will draw on this body of research and work for their own draft in the 1930-40s.

legal system

Dutch: Je moet kiezen of delen – You have to choose or partition. This is based on Dutch civil law where in a division of property one person divides the property in two parts and the other person chooses the part he likes most.



"sacred man" in law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sacer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Agamben#Homo_Sacer:_Sovereign_Power_and_Bare_Life_.281995.29 (first two paragraphs here):

In his main work "Homo Sacer: Sovereign Power and Bare Life" (1998), Giorgio Agamben analyzes an obscure[19] figure of Roman law that poses some fundamental questions to the nature of law and power in general. Under the Roman Empire, a man who committed a certain kind of crime was banned from society and all of his rights as a citizen were revoked. He thus became a "homo sacer" (sacred man). In consequence, he could be killed by anybody, while his life on the other hand was deemed "sacred", so he could not be sacrificed in a ritual ceremony.[citation needed]

Roman law no longer applied to someone deemed a Homo sacer, although they would remain "under the spell" of law. Agamben defines it as "human life...included in the juridical order solely in the form of its exclusion (that is, of its capacity to be killed)". Homo sacer was therefore excluded from law itself, while being included at the same time. This figure is the exact mirror image of thesovereign (basileus) – a king, emperor, or president – who stands, on the one hand, within law (so he can be condemned, e.g., for treason, as a natural person) and outside of the law (since as a body politic he has power to suspend law for an indefinite time).

understood as a legal vestige of exile?


popular groups

sovereign legal entities for the common people:


the concept being that people need no reason or excuse commercial to band together and protect themselves. sovereign "states" can exist between those with no property. public voluntary trusteeships. recognized at law, is their overarching value.

historical positions??

eventually these will have to be tabulated into the historical kingdom of faeland...